Re: HTA68 mini review
[Re: Jeremy Gilbert]
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April 13, 2012 03:43 pm UTC
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KEVIN KIRELUK
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I absolutely love my FP Green. If/when I upgrade, it'll definitely be another FP product.
How did you like the HTA86? What prompted the downgrade? The HTA86 was by far the best turbo I've owned! 36psi by 5K and had insane topend. I'm 36years old now, and racing isnt a priority for me any more. Plus my job I'm only home on weekends, so theres just no time for me to get out to the track. I was looking for a more of a street friendly set-up to make it more fun to drive. My 10:1cr motor and HTA68 make for a fun set-up that still makes really good power. I am confident I could still trap high 120's with this, maybe even squeeze out 130mph. If any of you remember my FP RED set-up, this set-up is pulling even harder, AND spools a lot quicker
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Re: HTA68 mini review
[Re: Alex Akachinskiy]
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April 13, 2012 04:38 pm UTC
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The HTA86 was by far the best turbo I've owned! Is worth upgrading from EVO316G ? Any porting done on HTA68? What is your wastegate setup? I would say its a worth while upgrade if your willing to push it. If you plan to run 20psi, maybe not much of an upgrade, but once you start pushing things to their limits the HTA68 will shine over the Evo3 16G. On my set-up I can rev to 9K without feeling the power fall off, an Evo3 16G will fall off up top. No porting, internally gated. I was saying that the HTA86 aka HTA3586 was the best turbo I've owned.
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Re: HTA68 mini review
[Re: KEVIN KIRELUK]
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April 13, 2012 05:05 pm UTC
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The HTA86 was by far the best turbo I've owned! Is worth upgrading from EVO316G ? Any porting done on HTA68? What is your wastegate setup? I would say its a worth while upgrade if your willing to push it. If you plan to run 20psi, maybe not much of an upgrade, but once you start pushing things to their limits the HTA68 will shine over the Evo3 16G. On my set-up I can rev to 9K without feeling the power fall off, an Evo3 16G will fall off up top. No porting, internally gated. I was saying that the HTA86 aka HTA3586 was the best turbo I've owned. Thanks for the review Kevin. I will consider it once I get bored with 16g. Is it correct to say that pushing 30+psi on HTA68 can not be done without meth?
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Re: HTA68 mini review
[Re: KEVIN KIRELUK]
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April 13, 2012 06:31 pm UTC
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Oh it's tiny compared to what I've been running for the last 10years. The FP3065 looks small to me, so this thing is tiny! lol So your HTA DSM86 must've looked small too, cause they both share the same compressor housing, haha. Just machined for a bigger wheel on the inside For the size of this turbo you'll be surprised on how it pulls. Kev took me for a spin last night. It felt faster than my evo 16g car when it was running mid 11's.
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Re: HTA68 mini review
[Re: kent Hennigar]
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October 23, 2015 09:44 pm UTC
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Just want to wake this up from the deep sleep. I pulled the trigger and purchased HTA68 turbo from FP. With recent price drop from 949 to 549 i could not resist anymore. Since this turbo is born from EVO 3 16G (which cost double) it raise the question of how exactly FP is able to make profit of HTA68? However, i exchanged few emails with FP regading exactly what is different compared to EVO 3 16g. Here is the copy of my answered questions. Hopefully this will help someone. AlexAk: Is the internally gated turbo uses exactly same wastegate as EVO 3 16g FP: The wastegate used on the DSM 68HTA is an 18psi actuator and it should hold well up to about 26-28psi of boostAlexAk: what is the 84 mm flow advancement port? Does it use same TD05h housing or different housing. FP: The 84mm FAP cover is the same cover used on the GREEN/RED and BLACK turbos. Shown here: TD05h shown here: FP: It is a better flowing cover, but definitely not stock appearing. If you do not plan to try and make more than about 425-450whp, the stock style 16g cover will get you to a 400whp mark pretty easily.AlexAK: is the hot side on 68HTA identical to EVO 3 16g ? FP: Not identical, but similar. Our turbine housing has a slight bit larger A/R and is an 8cm vs the 7cm of an Evo 3 16g.AlexAK: is evo 3 16g useful as a core to you? FP: Sorry, but no the turbo is of no use to us.
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Re: HTA68 mini review
[Re: KEVIN KIRELUK]
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October 24, 2015 02:19 am UTC
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Alex really appreciate the answers. I was not aware that the exhaust housing was bigger too. I was looking at a turbo upgrade for the 14b which was just he compressor housing and the wheel, they did state 47.5 lbs/min with that upgrade which I think sounds good.
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Re: HTA68 mini review
[Re: KEVIN KIRELUK]
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October 24, 2015 01:51 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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See to me I disagree Jay, the whole point in the 16g is that you get near stock lag with pull through to stock redline. I think the old one with the 7cm housing would be the new 16g, but I would assume the newer one not so much, though would be good to see some flow charts to full understand how big a difference that is.
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Re: HTA68 mini review
[Re: KEVIN KIRELUK]
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October 24, 2015 03:03 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Which turbos would those be Jay? Bastard 20g is the one I was looking at.
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