Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Jason Drew]
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July 30, 2015 03:26 pm UTC
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+2 on OEM, the material the ARP bolts are made of don't deal well with the heat. They either loosen themselves, or destroy the threads on the way out, not usually any happy medium. I've had OEM bolts loosen themselves, but only when not using the OEM washers. Never had a single turbo bolt back out with the OEM washers. I did have every single ARP turbo bolt strip or snap trying to take them out, though. Never again.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Salomon Ponte]
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July 30, 2015 06:55 pm UTC
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Never had any issue getting mine out but nice find, purchased! Will also be purchasing one of these! With the DSMs I don't usually have much trouble but I have had lots of trouble on other vehicles (looking at you, 2008 Hyundai Entourage). You do a lot of looking at stuff Prybar's or crow bar usually get's it done for me.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Alex Akachinskiy]
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July 31, 2015 12:21 am UTC
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Last edited by Charles Lavoie; July 31, 2015 12:24 am UTC.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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Your guess is as good as mine. All dowels accounted for. Maybe last tech who changed clutch didnt clean out tranny and it was sitting there.
So, new clutch, pressure plate, fidanza lightened flywheel ... relase fork, pivot ball, jesus clip. Maybe a new slave. Anything else?
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 01:51 am UTC
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What was the old clutch? Looks like a Fidanza 6 puck, if so I ran one of those as well, was a complete POS.
I would probably pass on the Fidanza aluminum flywheel, they can have driveability issues because of being too light. Get an ACT flywheel, stock is ~18, aluminum ~7-8 & ACT ~12, which is just about perfect.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 02:18 am UTC
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Anyone worried about the little play in the output shaft? Will I need to get the flywheel stepped before install? There are soo many combinations or pp, flywheel and clutch my head is spinning. For the next few years, max 400whp. Maybe 1 track night with 2 or 3 passes. Other than that, just twisties and highway pulls.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Mike Eng]
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July 31, 2015 02:30 am UTC
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Also, the locating pins (dowels) on mine are hollow. I swear the picture you posted of the one you removed through the inspection plate looks solid... Anybody? I thought it was the guide dowels for the Flywheel to pressure plate (they take all the shearing forces) Those are solid and the size of the dowel I found.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 02:40 am UTC
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Ok. Chime in peeps.
Flywheel: ACT Streetlite Clutch and PP?
Heard go with ACT2100 PP with SouthBend Clutch. Aiming to go full ACT if everyone agrees. Many people say ACT 2600 is not needed for anything under 500hp.
Do I go sprung 6 puck? Full sprung disc? Solid? (I really would like as little chatter as possible). This is street, not strip.
Anyone deal with ExtremePSI? Is there a canadian vendor on here that is reasonable with cost? 30% exchange rate hurts for US purchases.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 02:47 am UTC
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Anyone worried about the little play in the output shaft? Will I need to get the flywheel stepped before install? There are soo many combinations or pp, flywheel and clutch my head is spinning. For the next few years, max 400whp. Maybe 1 track night with 2 or 3 passes. Other than that, just twisties and highway pulls. Sorry, meant to mention that: that play is normal. I would at least have the flywheel checked; the Streetlite I bought new was stepped properly though. For a clutch, I can't say enough good things about Southbend. I've used a few different ACT combinations in the past; this year I'm on the Southbend Stage 3 Drag. Their pressure plates have a very light pedal but hold a ton of torque. You'd be fine on a Stage 2 Daily or Endurance for your power and usage goals. With the difference in price, I'd have to recommend the Daily Edit: Beyond the flywheel, I would avoid ACT. Southbend clutch kit on an ACT flywheel with an OEM throwout bearing
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 02:51 am UTC
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I'm using the Fidanza flywheel. Replaceable plate seemed more appealing to me not having to deal with a machine shop..
And currently the bully "stage 4" sprung 6 puck. And after having read half the board went southbend over the past few years, I think I'll be trying it next.
All oem parts for fork, pivot ball, throwout bearing and retaining clip.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 04:00 am UTC
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Southbend clutch here as well, years back ACT was the clutch brand of choice for DSMer's but I think a lot have since switched to Southbend. Have heard of ACT having quality control issues more often over the last few years as well. I run the TZ/FE setup from Tim Zimmer ( www.tmzperformance.com) & the SS pressure plate. Close to stock feel & engagement, run 32psi daily on a 35R, ~25K miles on it so far. Even if the flywheel is new, measure the step height as even the ACT flywheels can be off from new (ask me how I know ). You'll want the step height at least .610, flat across the whole surface.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 04:06 am UTC
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Ziggy. You just got an order. Exchange rate hurt >.< extra 160$!!!
Thanks everyone. Stay "tuned"
Now I need to find someone in Ottawa that will fab that rad support. The body shop close by is not getting back to me. >.<
2x3 for the win! lol.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 01:31 pm UTC
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Thanks Mike. I may do that. I will look at Lucon. But first, will keep fingers crossed that Mitsu still sells MB959301. Lower Headlight support. (not the whole thing).. probably as much as getting one fabbed. >.<
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 02:38 pm UTC
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MB959301 should be around $195. IF it is still available..
And yes, exchange is killer right now, I have had to adjust my pricing a few times recently...
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 02:58 pm UTC
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MB959301 should be around $195. IF it is still available.. Thanks Ziggy There are a few in states (online) for 90$-$100, if I can't get here in Canada. Alright.. so this has been bugging me a bit. There was a tiny amount of oil at the base of the crank seal. Now that I have the tranny out, how big of a pain is it to change that seal? I don't see the seal as a part in ASA. >.> I could leave it as it really wasn't much. If I do change it, I kinda wish it was easy easy as this 1.9 VW one >.< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzn4OVPSWrU
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 03:03 pm UTC
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The rear main seal is actually very easy to change. It sits in a housing that's bolted to the end of the block, so you can pull it off and then swap the seals out on your workbench. You'll need the seal, as well as the housing gasket, and if you happen to bugger up the housing itself, Ziggy's got that too: Housing.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 03:31 pm UTC
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Frikin Fracken. Called Mitsu. Gave them my VIN.. no go. Told me I need VIN to order parts. I have to call dodge. And we all know how much that will cost.
Gonna drive down and get this sorted. I have all part numbers >.<
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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July 31, 2015 03:37 pm UTC
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You can make up vins if you have the service manual, why not just give them your vin?
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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Found a nice dealership (Kanata). They were amazed the Talon was still around and worked with parts#'s only. So for those that replacing clutch.. here is the status of Mitsu's inventory. Sad state of affairs. The most important top one too N/A | MD719925 BEARING, CLUTCH RELEASE $19.01 | MD719602 FULCRUM, CLUTCH RELEASE FORK $3.06 | MD706185 CLIP CLUTCH RELEASE BEARING RETURN N/A | MD737767 FORK, CLUTCH RELEASE $22.32 |MD718077 BOOT, CLUTCH RELEASE FORK $17.77 / bolt | MD132656 FLANGE, 10x80 N/A | MR187766 CONED DISK, 10.5 $6.82 |MD128901 GASKET,T/C EXHAUST GAS INLET HOLE $5.93 | MD183243 REAR MAIN GASKET 6 BOLT N/A | MD343564 REAR MAIN SEAL $212.11 | MB959301 – PANEL, HEADLAMP SUPPORT, LWR Turns out, RTM is quick. They just sent out. I missed my opportunity. I will order everything else from ExtremePSI. This is getting expensive fast!
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Jeremy Gilbert]
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No OEM release bearing either from RTM. But I agree. RTM for almost everything! Just don't want to pay for shipping for two different places.
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Re: Project: Save Me
[Re: Charles Lavoie]
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I suck at searching apparently I will order from you next time Ziggy!
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