Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Deep Mann]
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September 27, 2013 07:50 pm UTC
September 27, 2013 07:50 pm UTC
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Reza Mirza
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Either you have wiring issues in your car, or your rebuilder is not replacing the regulator in your alernator. That is the common issue with these rebuilds. Ever wonder why your OEM one that came with the car lasted the longest? I use OEM rebuilds with the regulators replaced in them. That is probably why I don't have issues.
Bang on. A lot of these rebuilders in this business are a joke. Thanks for the input Deep. As you guys run a shop you would know this first hand. This alternator myth is busted! As with most things with DSM's, people just like to follow the bandwagon I would however say that if you don't have a good source for rebuilt OEM alternators, then you might as well go for a Saturn one and grind down your front case or block and do whatever it takes to run it! My rebuilder can even make the OEM alternators pump out 120 AMPS as opposed to the 90. My buddies and I were running 120 AMP OEM alternators back in early 2000 with no issues at all. The only reason we ran these was because we would roll around with 2x12's and big amps in our DSM's pounding the streets of T.O. OEM alternators 4eva
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Ziggy Dietrich]
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September 27, 2013 08:37 pm UTC
September 27, 2013 08:37 pm UTC
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Jason Drew
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First of all, let's get it straight....everyone is entitled to MY opinion......
I think the problem with the brackets breaking on the Jay Racing relocate kit are what caused him to start offering steel brackets instead of aluminum. As far as I know, no-one has had one of the steel brackets break.
As for it being a PITA, and whether there are or aren't benefits, I have no opinion, so I will also just grab popcorn. One of the two I've seen break was the steel one, I welded it for the guy and is still holding to this day to the best of my knowledge
1997 Eclipse GST - AWD swapped - TPC - GT Spec powered 2023 - 9.63 - 145mph
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Reza Mirza]
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September 27, 2013 09:23 pm UTC
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Alex Akachinskiy
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This alternator myth is busted! As with most things with DSM's, people just like to follow the bandwagon I replaced my original alternator at 200k because of that myth. It was still running fine but I replaced just in case with the rebuild unit I got from Napa. I am also another DSMer who run OEM alternators without issues. My battery logs at 13.9 - 14.1 volts at idle and didn't drop when Terry S. stress-test it by turning all my electrical stuff on including cabin fan on high, high beams, stereo, and rear defroster.
1996 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 1999 Eclipse GST 5sp swap 1991 3000GT VR-4
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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September 27, 2013 09:32 pm UTC
September 27, 2013 09:32 pm UTC
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Mike Eng
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Mike and Reza: Dont make me come over there and make you two hug And to all i've made a few threads in the short time i have been part of this forum and a majority of them have lead to a lot of new knowledge for me. Majority if not all threads have been started because of the unending list of questions i have as i am new to the dsm world and all the info has been helpful Everyones opinions have contributed towards my questions being answered and i hope it continues this way...that being said no need to dog someone elses opinion we're free to have one and if you dont agree then thats also your opinion At the end of the day im all for maximizing the return for every dollar i invest in anything and that will be my route with my cars upcoming lengthy slow'n'steady build. Mike i believe had suggested a build thread and i will most likely be beginning that (once an income stream has begun) for anyone who wants to follow. Keep up the DSM love peeps! Manny, it's nothing really. Just a bashing of one another opinions..the difference is I'll give you FREE advice. Whereas some people here like to charge $1,000 UP FRONT.
'99 GSX GT35R '03 CBR 600RR
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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September 27, 2013 10:13 pm UTC
September 27, 2013 10:13 pm UTC
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Reza Mirza
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I am not getting offended because you are running a Saturn alt. There are a handful of guys in this thread who are still running OEM as they stated. I guess you forgot to read their posts and your the only one having issues. Your taking this to the heart man. Mike get it right, $1500 gets you through my door now, not $1000 CASH only, upfront! Don't like it, take a hike! I don't tune sh!t ass DSM's for free, lol.
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Jay Stacey]
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September 27, 2013 11:47 pm UTC
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Reza Mirza
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This is not about winning and losing. I'll I said was you guys are giving bad advice, I didn't mean to come off in a wrong way. We all have our opinions I was just throwing in mines. I didn't mean to touch any feelings. You guys can think I'm a dic or asshole, call me names, but thats fine. Just trying to have a constructive argument with facts. I'll try not to do that with you two next time. I still love you all . Everyone who knows me, knows I don't charge $1500 or $1000 for tuning. You gotta be pretty stupid if your gonna pay me that , and if you really are that stupid I'll be happy to take your money. See I don't take things to heart, lets grab a beer if we ever meet, it'll be on me I wanna see that relocated Saturn Alt
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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September 28, 2013 01:56 am UTC
September 28, 2013 01:56 am UTC
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Stephan Tanchak
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My rebuilt OEM alternator lasted all summer. Some long drives, lots of sitting in traffic.
Its a US alt, so not the best voltage, but with a heat blanket for the turbo and manifold plus a wrapped down pipe and O2 housing and the thing hasn't died yet. Even had coolant spill on it and at one point a screw fell on it and it sparked a lot.
Was just about to pick up a alternator relocation kit too. Good thing this was discussed though!
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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September 28, 2013 03:51 am UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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LOL you guys are hilarious. I enjoy the constructive arguments because I get to see different point of views and see what works for others, then decide which option is the easiest and do that
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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September 28, 2013 06:24 am UTC
September 28, 2013 06:24 am UTC
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Lucian Marta
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I never personally fried a single OEM alternator on any of my 3 previous DSMs. And none of them ever had the downpipe shields. One had 200k the other had 260+k when pulled and sold, in perfect working order.
Sometimes it's not just the heat. How many DSMs have leaking P/S pumps or valve cover gaskets slowly leaking and making their way into the alternator?
On my Elantra, the downpipe is heat wrapped but sits 1" from the back of the alternator. I fried the original OEM alternator at 317k. But not because of the heat. It was caked in oil from my valve cover gasket. Changed the gasket, then I put an OE-rebuilt alternator from Crappy, brand new, killed it in 1 minute of running. Returned it, went to the junkyard and pulled another factory OEM with who knows how many KMS and I get perfect voltage all day long.
And enough about the alternators.
Get that damn FMIC in there. If you plan to mod your car, you're gonna need to do it sooner or later. May as well sooner.
1993 TSi AWD 2008 Evo GSR 2011 Ralliart 2012 Ralliart 2011 RVR GT
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Reza Mirza]
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September 28, 2013 08:38 pm UTC
September 28, 2013 08:38 pm UTC
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Sven Hebbard
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This is not about winning and losing. I'll I said was you guys are giving bad advice, I didn't mean to come off in a wrong way. We all have our opinions I was just throwing in mines. I didn't mean to touch any feelings. You guys can think I'm a dic or asshole, call me names, but thats fine. Just trying to have a constructive argument with facts. I'll try not to do that with you two next time. I still love you all . Everyone who knows me, knows I don't charge $1500 or $1000 for tuning. You gotta be pretty stupid if your gonna pay me that , and if you really are that stupid I'll be happy to take your money. See I don't take things to heart, lets grab a beer if we ever meet, it'll be on me I wanna see that relocated Saturn Alt reza your a dic and a asshole... end rant
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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September 29, 2013 03:27 am UTC
September 29, 2013 03:27 am UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Manny, something like that goes into the war stories & sighting
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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September 29, 2013 04:51 pm UTC
September 29, 2013 04:51 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Haha, no worries, just figured I would let you know where things generally go
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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November 21, 2013 04:52 pm UTC
November 21, 2013 04:52 pm UTC
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Michael Lee
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lol, wow, long thread and I'm bringing it back after a couple of months.
Key thing to take away from all this Manny is to TAKE YOUR TIME, do NOT rush, and do things incrementally.
DO NOT do it the way I did, and never panic and do something stupid like buy another DSM to replace your already working DSM, because the seller "seemed like a nice guy".
Haha.
You'll get a kick out of a bigger fuel pump, 14B, and a FMIC. Oh and a 1G BOV to keep all that boost in without leaking.
Do ALL maintenance first. I mean everything, before even attempting to add any power makers.
That's it.
Soooooo, where are you at with the car now?
Edit: forgot to add a manual boost controller, which can be had for pennies.
Last edited by Michael Lee; November 21, 2013 04:53 pm UTC.
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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November 23, 2013 01:51 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Go watch a few episodes of MCM they do testing on air filters, pretty much they are all the same, just choose one you like.
"Old Blue" 91 Talon TSi AWD "Super Enthusiast" 91 Talon TSi AWD Checkout DSMFAQ.com!
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Manny Sandhu]
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November 25, 2013 06:36 pm UTC
November 25, 2013 06:36 pm UTC
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Michael Lee
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In the works Johnny and I'll remember that Terry just gotta find the time...holiday shopping doesnt help
Am i better off getting an air filter from part source or rtm, i mean is it that big of a difference in price?
Anything i should keep in mind when looking at filters? (I really like the look of the HKS mushroom filter but does another perform better?) I had/have one on one of my cars, and can say it doesn't filter much, you're better off with a cone filter from K&N or something, skip the mushroom if it's going to be a DD.
1997 Eclipse GST/X Eat in small amounts. Otherwise be prepared to paint toilet bowls~ Mike Eng
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Re: FMIC on stock T25
[Re: Johnny Larmond]
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November 25, 2013 07:23 pm UTC
November 25, 2013 07:23 pm UTC
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Michael Lee
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Transmission swap... That's all I have to say. That's what I'm fessing up to. lol I completely overlooked the difference in final drives when I did my AWD swap. You're doing a transmission swap, Manny? I thought you just liked doing rear end swaps, so you did it, so you could do it again.
1997 Eclipse GST/X Eat in small amounts. Otherwise be prepared to paint toilet bowls~ Mike Eng
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