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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408614
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Alright you assholes! I started this today. I grinded away the feet from the RSX seat and decided to customize my own feet using some 1/6" x 2" steel slabs. I'll mold and drill them as needed and use some self locking nuts and bolts to mount them to the RSX rail and likely use the OEM nuts for the front, and OEM bolts in the rear.

Easy peezy Rob wink


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408616
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Easier said than done. You have an advantage being a circus midget bird

My solution was based SOLELY on height issues, and center line. Like I said before, its been done without doing what I did, but Ill bet my next paycheck, the seats are high, and to the side.

Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408630
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I know what you mean by the height issue. And for the record, I'm 5'7" and I guess you're about 6'7" with your spikey hair ehhh? wink

lool

Alright, so I definitely have noticed the outer side of the seat will need to be raised up by about an inch to and inch and a half. Otherwise, the seat is sloping to the out side.

I plan to level them using modified feet that may require two nut and bolts to the rail, for secure measure, and the drilled holes to be off center to accommodate the seat being straight to the steering wheel.

Why didn't you think of this?

Oh ya, you like to take the long hard road wink

I'll have this done by the end of next weekend (fingers crossed).

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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408632
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I also wanted to mention;

the 2g OEM seat belt buckle (the one mounted to the seat) is a perfect fit on the RSX seat using the OEM bolt from the 2g DSM seat.

I do plan to make my own pig tails to wire up the sensor and likely the heater elements.

But I'll cross that bridge when I get there.


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408633
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Originally Posted by Mike Eng

Why didn't you think of this?




Height issue. Making the seat lower was priority, not higher. Using the OEM mounting locations on the car floor, were not an option for me.

Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408638
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Hey Mike, just curious...

If someone over 5'8" can't fit in your drivers seat, what's going to happen when time comes for you to sell your car?

Or what if you have a tall passenger?

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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408640
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Mike, don't listen to Rob.

The height thing isn't that big of a deal. I'll post pictures when I get them in and I'll even sit in the seat with a helmet on and you guys can be the judge.

They're just seats. They can be customized how ever you like.

I'm just lucky that I'm not too tall to have to worry about my head hitting the roof liner.

PS. I won't ever sell my car. Seriously!

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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408659
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Originally Posted by Mike Eng
PS. I won't ever sell my car. Seriously!
I was waiting for this response as soon as I saw him write that.

Look forward to seeing the end result, glad we got you motivated wink


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408680
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Yeah I was getting sick of driving in Rob's old seats. And sick of staring at those new'er ones in the garage.

Good thing I have a pair of old seat covers to keep them from getting dusty. ESPECIALLY after the amount of grinding needed to remove those feet.


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408681
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I used a carbide drill. Popped the old feet off in literally less than 3 minutes wink

Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408682
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[Linked Image]

This is the bottom of the RSX seat.

The feet need to come off (as you know). And the original seat belt buckle is still in. There's two wiring harnesses that attach under the seat. One for the sensor and the other for the SRS locking mechanism.

Both removed of course and DSM buckle installed.

[Linked Image]

Rob, I tried my dremel first. It's not big enough for the job. So I used my angle grinder and that went a lot faster and smoother. I wish I had a carbide bit!

Those rivets are in there GOOD!

My recommendation, have some safety goggles and a dust mask handy. There's lots of grinding involved.

Will post a pic of what it looks like AFTER removing the feet.


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408683
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Oh yeah and there's a total of 6 rivets and 4 spot welds holding the two front feet.



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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408692
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I think when I put these in my old Integra I used a step bit to make short work of the old feet. I assume you guys are using the RSX sliders still?

Head room is a big thing for me, when I had RSX seats in my Integra my head was maybe 1" for the roof and once over a hard bump I hit my head. That was when I decided to get rid of them.


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408701
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Yeah so I'll be modifying the feet on the outer mounting points to level the base.

The seat's height adjust ability is a rotary knob that raises or lowers the base and it brings it closer to the steering wheel by raising it.

Not sure how else to explain that but you may likely have to do the Cauduro way and remove that rear bracket on the floor of the car.



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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408708
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Wither I keep the factory seats or swap the RSX ones, the driver seat is being mounted to the floor.


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #408714
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Oh well in that case, go with the RSX ones. And post a picture of them too. Probably the only person in Canada with cloth RSX seats in a 2g dsm.


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #409284
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GRR!!!! It's raining today. I got the seat positioned and started customizing the feet. I'm going to have to grab some new drill bits. They're struggling to penetrate from age and abuse. Other than that, everything is going according to plan. smile

If only the rain would STOP, I could frack around with it some more. My garage is cluttered with stored junk, so I can't work on it in there.

Will post back with some result later on..


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #409286
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If you have a bench grinder you can sharpenyour bits.

Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #409288
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^^^ I do. I'll give that a shot. Otherwise I'll just pick up some new ones tomorrow.


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #409373
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Stephen, he'd need to know how to do it, angle to hold them and such. However I'm sure you can find a video on Youtube.


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I am pretty sure he could figure it out by looking at a sharp drill bit. Not really rocket surgery.....

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But it DOES take some practice. It is pretty easy to grind a drill bit that WON'T cut...


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What the Zig man said.
I learned to do it in college the first time around but I've got it forgotten now since I haven't done it in years.


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Just don't make it look like a pencil. It is not the point that cuts. Look close at a good bit. You'll finger it out.

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I've worked with machists of 20 years who still can't sharpen a drill. Makes me sick lol.


It's so easy it's painful wink

YouTube that sh!t

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There are different drill types with different webs of the flute that require different techniques, but the principle is all the same. Watch some vids

Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #409456
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Little update for you guys.

I managed to sharpen the drill bits I'm using. It wasn't hard at all lol.

They're near perfect, a bit of elbow grease and they're chomping away at the steel strapping I'm using for the custom feet.

Wish I had taken a picture of the progress today, but had to deal with a thunder storm, and a bit of maintenance on the MDX to get me to and from work this week.

Anyhow, I've managed to make two feet holding the front two bolts using the OEM studs (pics soon). One of the feet is on an angle (which I will eventually make another "foot" for when I have a piece of steel wide enough to compensate for this angle).

There was a bit of floor bashing today. tongue I had to lower the inner stud bracket (the one spot welded to the floor) by about 1/4 inch to make room for the customized hard ware. Just the hardware alone that I'm using is a PITA to customize because I'm bolting directly to the rails (in place of rivets, which are short and small), so all of my bolt heads needed grinding.

My work week begins tomorrow so I doubt I'll have time this week to get any more progress, but you never know..I may catch a flu or something tongue


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #409461
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Yeah make one up Diamondstaratus, just tell them if you don't rest enough you could lose the use of your limbs.


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #410216
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So after I restitched the seem, I rehogged the base panel to the foam and it was easier than it looks. SERIOUSLY!!

(PICS OF THIS TO COME)

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Finally got the driver seat done.

As you can see, the custom feet needed some bending and shaping.

[Linked Image]

After positioning the seat center and balanced it (using a level), I figured the easiest foot to make first was the one closest to the shifter. The floor needed a bit of "bashing" to make room for the hardware.

[Linked Image]

I also used blocks of 2X4 and 1X4 wood to help position everything.

Every one of the bolts heads needed grinding to clear the sliders. Remember, there were rivets here.

[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

All in all, I'm VERY happy with the outcome. It's suits me PERFECTLY and I have full functionality of the sliders, reclining lever and base rotary dial. It's straight and level!


Although, if I set the base rotary dial in the highest position, and with the back folded fowarded, it hits the roof liner. Regardless, I did all of this while the seat was in it's lowest position and it still clears the roof liner by almost a half inch.

[Linked Image]

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[Linked Image]

[Linked Image]

FML!!! The passenger seat is next...


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Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #410219
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Nice work Mike!! Those brackets look damn professional!
Have you tried sitting with your helmet on?


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That does look nice! So after you're done you're coming over to do mine right? laugh tongue


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Good job!!

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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Nice work Mike!! Those brackets look damn professional!
Have you tried sitting with your helmet on?


Thanks you guys!

Bryan, no but thanks for reminding me tongue

I know there will be space but. The entire seat sits higher by at least an inch. Remember, I'm only 5ft7". wink

G - WTF? Did you buy some seats? ps. don't think I'll need those sparco brackets you found. I have enough of this metal to take care of the passenger side too.

Steve - I may bug you in the near future about wiring these bad boys up for some heat. wink


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That was one of the things Rob was concerned with when he did his, so I figured I would ask.


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No worries. But doesnt she sleep through the winters?

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Originally Posted by Stephen Richardson
No worries. But doesnt she sleep through the winters?


If it's anywhere near 10*'s out, I'm rockin my heated seats and 32* climate control in my mdx. So seeing as it's only the base (and not both like the mdx), I figure it should be simple considering I have power at the seat (gsx came with a power base), and a location to mount the switches, I just need to know which wire from the seat's pigtail need splicing. I'll likely make a new pigtail, just need to know how many pins I need.



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Yeah then you can mount the relay easy at the seat base. But your soft man. 10* is still shorts and tee shirt weather.

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Oh wait is it power from a relay or from a fuse? If fuse what is the rating?

Re: RSX Leather seats in my Eclipse [Re: Mike Eng] #410254
August 06, 2013 02:57 am UTC
August 06, 2013 02:57 am UTC
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Mike Eng Offline OP
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Yeah, I'm a tropical kind of guy wink



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