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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #394434
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Just throw a coolant temp sensor in........ just kidding you Jay.

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Originally Posted by Jason Drew
Have your plug wires order reversed and "use non-95/96 style cam angle sensor" checked?

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That was my next thing.


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Stephen Richardson] #394444
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Originally Posted by Stephen Richardson
Just throw a coolant temp sensor in........ just kidding you Jay.

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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #394445
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Ya i swapped those back and forth. I got the injector duty to show around 3% untill full throttle. Im gonna be too busy to work on it tomorrow and ill be in toronto all weekend so it will have to wait till next week.


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #394986
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IT STARTED!!!!!!!!

So I confirmed all my timing marks.. and cas positions and plug wires. and put some fresh gas in with the old stuff. Cranked it over and it popped. so I knew it wanted to do something. So I swtched the fireing order of the plugs and it started to fire. Stumbled at first. But with a little help from my foot I could get it to idle. I filled the garage with smoke. blackish grey smoke! Idled rough.. Have a hole in my tubular manifold that i got for free.


But it started!


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #394987
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Glad to hear that she is alive.


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Congrats Jay! Keep you garage door open when you do this....you have kids wink


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #394989
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Good stuff Jay!


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395102
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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395358
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0 degrees out friday night... think I might thro a case af Brava in the garage and house of hair on the radio and stay up all night and work on it!


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395367
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What else do you have left to do? Looks good by the way, I creeped in your garage a little when I dropped off the plugs wink

Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395369
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I gotta play with the djustments to get it to idle.. then get it to idle well. and figure out what I eed to replace.


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Do a boost leak test yet?


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Mike Eng] #395371
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Weather will only get better from now on Jay (I hope). Next week Friday is March smile. I got my princess auto flyer with Spring ideas on the front page lol


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395375
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Got Link? Log it. Post it.

Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395378
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Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
I gotta play with the djustments to get it to idle.. then get it to idle well. and figure out what I eed to replace.



Sorry I was driving while i txt this.

I have link.. will log..

speed density.. I know i need a boost leak test but not to get it to idle well.

Saw the princess auto flyer.. didnt see anything interesting but I will go anyway.


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395386
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Even with sd a vacuum leak can affect idle.

Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395388
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only past the TB And im pretty sure there no leaks. maybe the Tb seals.


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395389
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Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
only past the TB And im pretty sure there no leaks. maybe the Tb seals.



Right! Thats the only place your gonna have a vacuum leak.

Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395392
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No you can have leaks in the hose fittings.. injector seals..intake gasket...egr


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Right. All feed after the tbody. Think about it.

Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395564
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Quick what log values do you wanna see?


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As much as you can.

Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395572
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how do i post a log?


It runs.. idles... smoothly.. Idles at 14.3 on the wb gauge.. but link wbest says 17?? rpms at700.. Does not smoke.

Airflow was all over the place, so i went back to maf and it smoothed out..and stopped smoking. then I opened the BISS till I could get it to idle without the pedal. I dont have the lower part of my TB. Guess all have to work on the SD later. Will post a vid soon as youtube finishes.

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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #395580
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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #396094
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how do you post a log?


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #396097
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If you have dropbox put it in a public folder than right click to get the link.


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #396122
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/gziu584ihg6thii/logmaf3.2013.02.28-01.elg


OK this is a log, running stock maf, 750cc seimens injectors 20g turbo. Im running 315 deadtimes, If i raise it any it richens right up. I havent hooked the timing guin to it yet either. But if I switch to SD it starts, run extremly rich and dies.


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Did you transfer your MAF setup to your VE table?

Get the car fully warm and then post another log.


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I will I get about 1 hour every 3 days to play with it. And I usually kill the battery before im satisfied.

I just finally got my map sensor to actually read boost.. All that wire work and I wired the map wrong@!



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Originally Posted by Bryan Lawrence
Did you transfer your MAF setup to your VE table?

]\


How do I do that?


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If you are running a MAF, you cannot run a secondary intake temp sensor, it throws the numbers off drastically. Either run a MAF or run SD.

You have to go for a good drive to get your LTFTs working, and the car must be higher than 179* to begin affecting your trims.

If your base timing is off, tuning your car is useless. Three things that must be checked before dialing in your car.

1: Base timing
2: Fuel pressure (43.5psi on a 2G)
3: No boost leaks

And do yourself a favor, remove the "fracker" after your sensors if you want some help on the ECMTuning boards. Doesn't make you look cool at all, but more so like some 17 year old kid who's got a fast toy car.


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #396128
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hehe, Ya I got some Ecmlink reading up to do.. It was ssooo much easier with DSMAP And ya i want to get the car running good before I try to dial in the SD. Good thing I still kept the maf connector. If it offends you ryan, sorry.. I dont care what the ecm forums say.. There are millions of people who dont care how I right the value names.. I just wanted to know they were my values and not stock values.. easier to find.

That log file was more of practice to learn how to post logs.

Gotta learn more dsmlink basics before Im gonna be runnin SD. Besides , I may just run Maf till I over run it then switch.

Now that Ive used both DSMAP and Link. DSMAP IS easier and simpler, and yet has more tuning options for speed density.

Too bad they dont make DSMAP for 2gs

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Jay, do you know about ecmlink video tutorials?

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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #396135
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Ya.. I found the calibration windows... now.. this make a bit more sense hehe. Dsmap its plug it in.. upload a base map or something close to it.. start it and it practicly calibrates itself. all the windows are easy to find and use. I was just assumeing link would be simple too. lol.


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Link is easy to use; consider it like a new pair of shoes. Velcro was much easyer but you will soon be running with it when you learn to tie them yourself. In the mean time we will be there for you big guy!!!

I should be back home soon and will try to soend some quality time with you.

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Originally Posted by Jay Stacey
Ya.. I found the calibration windows... now.. this make a bit more sense hehe. Dsmap its plug it in.. upload a base map or something close to it.. start it and it practicly calibrates itself. all the windows are easy to find and use. I was just assumeing link would be simple too. lol.


Welcome to the world of REAL tuning. smile Don't know of too many DSMap cars in the 8s!!! laugh

You will get used to it. It does take some getting used to. I've been tuning link for 5 years and I still learn something new about it every year!


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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #397035
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So it moves!

Tranny linkage needs adjusting, Hard to get it into first. Maybe more clutch line bleeding. No logs as my laptop dosent have a good battery.








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Re: my 2g biuld [Re: Jay Stacey] #397039
March 10, 2013 12:18 am UTC
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Joined: Sep 2010
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Moose Jaw SK / Cambridge ON
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Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,831
Moose Jaw SK / Cambridge ON
But she's running. That counts for a lot!!


'97 GSX - DD and running strong
'99 GSX Spyder - Running strong
'99 GS - zzzz.

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