Let's talk tires for a moment :)
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February 12, 2013 03:52 am UTC
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Mike Eng
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So I'm after a new set of 17" rubber and I'm open to all brands but my requirements are tread ware rating of 400+ and the type of driving I do will be mostly highway, and a couple of track days. I'm mainly looking for something similar to the Yokohama s-drive but a little more sportier.
400+ tread ware is key. I don't want to have to replace them each season.
Anyone have any suggestions?
I've owned the k110's (hankook) they wore too quickly, I've checked out the RS-3, it's nice but with a trdwr of 140, they won't hold up to highway abuse and same goes for toyo r1r's.
The direzza's also look like they won't hold up to hwy kms.
FML tire shopping is a PITA!
'99 GSX GT35R '03 CBR 600RR
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 12, 2013 09:50 pm UTC
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Daren Peacock
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400+ treadware, so your not looking for a performance tire, your looking for all season, mud & snows? What kind of treadlife are you looking to get? My Kumho XS are rated as 180, currently have 20K miles on them & will get 5K more no problem (or 40K km). I could probably get more out of them if the inners werent wearing faster then the rest (good alignment but I think its just caused from toe changes as our suspension compresses/rebounds, with soft rubber compounds). For me thats 5 summers, after that much time the rubber is starting to lose performance. So I'd rather burn through the tire vs throwing them out with tread left.
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Daren Peacock]
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February 12, 2013 09:54 pm UTC
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Mike Eng
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400+ treadware, so your not looking for a performance tire, your looking for all season, mud & snows? What kind of treadlife are you looking to get? My Kumho XS are rated as 180, currently have 20K miles on them & will get 5K more no problem (or 40K km). I could probably get more out of them if the inners werent wearing faster then the rest (good alignment but I think its just caused from toe changes as our suspension compresses/rebounds, with soft rubber compounds). For me thats 5 summers, after that much time the rubber is starting to lose performance. So I'd rather burn through the tire vs throwing them out with tread left. lol which is why I've decided on 300's and not 400's. I plan to order from tirerack again, and I'm comfortable paying up to $600-$650 for a set. Keeping in mind I'll have to pay duties crossing the border at Ogdensburgh. I just priced out the s-drives from my work and with out tax, they're $220x4=$880 + 13% hst = $995. I'll be saving a couple hundred bucks this way.
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 12, 2013 10:19 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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I am really happy with my Nankang NS-2 I paid about 650 installed for them. http://www.amazon.com/Nankang-NS-2-High-Performance-Tire/dp/B004QL6OOU
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 12, 2013 10:27 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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I'm rocking an Ironman Imove, which for the price is a decent tire. Good all season, forget about it at the track.
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 12, 2013 10:30 pm UTC
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Why do I need rain for an awd burnout? JK I want the best of both worlds, great performance and long life. Had the NS-2 on my civic back in the day, they were OK..found them noisy but my 3" exhaust kind of cancels that out lol...
'99 GSX GT35R '03 CBR 600RR
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 13, 2013 05:10 am UTC
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Salomon Ponte
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I stand by Hankook. Cannot beat the bang for the buck factor you get with them.
For the difference in price between the Ventus EVO V12 and anything comparable you could buy 2 sets and still have cash left over. Sure treadwear is lower but performance is fantastic.
I use the Ventus Z-214 R-Comps and they are the stickiest out there, but they wear quick.
The RS-3's keep winning competition after competition and are generally sold out everywhere - the treadwear is low but you won't find a better performing tire, but some of the competition definitely does have better treadwear.
Pricewise, Hankooks are generally the best performance bang for the buck and generally some of the cheaper options, but treadwear usually suffers. I always get from the States (unless I find a sweet deal here) so pricing difference may not be as drastic if you're buying locally.
After reading through this thread a little more thoroughly...the difference in tire costs is truly astounding.
'92 Talon TSi AWD - 5 Speed/E16G/12.385s @ 115.13mph
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 13, 2013 06:26 am UTC
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The evo v12's (which I'm running now on the 18's) are wearing to quickly for my liking. I drive A LOT of high way into work and back home when I daily my car. I've even considered keeping my 18's as a cruising set with some s-drives (yoko's) and the 17's as strictly a 100-140 treadware (r1r's, direzza z2's, those rs-3's you mentioned)..BUT, what a PITA to tote a set of extra wheels inside your car, with you to track days. And my eclipse is NO WHERE NEAR trailer queen worthiness.
So imagine this, it's 90 kms each way into town and back home, 5 times a week and sometimes further for hockey games. That's about 1,000 kms a week. They next set of rubber I buy need to handle that, and be able to allow me to break loose every now and then. (on the track of course).
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 13, 2013 06:48 am UTC
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Oh and to add one last thing, the Evo's (in my size) are $124 each and the S-Drive is $125. For the extra $4, I'd like to try something new.
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Jason Weir]
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February 13, 2013 07:47 pm UTC
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Daren Peacock
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while we are on the topic of tires, whats peoples experience with 1010tire? They seem to have decent prices and free shipping on full sets of 4? I am not trying to plug them I am just trying to see where or what peoples experiences are with them and tires Not sure if its just a promo but I don't think they normally have free shipping. I don't think they have the best prices out there but don't think their too bad most of the time either(you probably don't have the tire shop selection the GTA does). Remember you need to add on something to have them installed if your compairing to your local shops price. Tirerack.com usually has some pretty good prices but their shiping cost to Canada really jacks the price up. If you can have them shippied within the US, you'll do much better. Edit: On tire choice, I have no personal experience but also check out the Bridgestone Potenza RE760 Sport. Bridgestone makes some really nice tires currently but their usually pretty spendy. If I was looking for something with more tread wear vs the max performance tires I typically run, I'd probably give them a shot, as this model doesnt seem to bad price wise.
Last edited by Daren Peacock; February 13, 2013 07:54 pm UTC.
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 14, 2013 07:43 am UTC
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Salomon Ponte
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Believe me, the difference an R-Comp makes in performance on a track (that is, if you both know how to and are willing to push a car to its very limits) is significant to say the least. R-Comps make more of a difference than any other single mod, especially for the price, especially if you throw them on a set of lightweight rims.
It's definitely worth the 'hassle' of carrying around the rims if you're going to the track. I usually lug enough tools with me to disassemble/rebuild the entire car on the spot anyways, so what's a few tires? Besides, if you track on your street tires they WILL get chewed up - significantly, especially if they are a higher treadwear (i.e. lower temp, lower performance) tire.
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 14, 2013 07:58 pm UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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I just got a 101 on this today from a tech at my work and pretty neat stuff. Mr. Ponte - How do you fit ALL of your tools and a spare set of wheels in your car? Multi-Tool doesn't count He definitely does not, he could barely fit my fenders in his car, let alone 4 extra tires
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Bryan Lawrence]
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February 14, 2013 08:28 pm UTC
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Road Force is pretty neat eh Mike. Makes a huge difference on lower Quality tires. Yes it is. But to get 100% true round is still impossible if you ask me. I thought they called this a "roll-out" test. But Road Force is a combination of aspects that aid harmonic balancing. I just got a 101 on this today from a tech at my work and pretty neat stuff. Mr. Ponte - How do you fit ALL of your tools and a spare set of wheels in your car? Multi-Tool doesn't count He definitely does not, he could barely fit my fenders in his car, let alone 4 extra tires Thought so!
'99 GSX GT35R '03 CBR 600RR
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Re: Let's talk tires for a moment :)
[Re: Mike Eng]
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February 14, 2013 09:18 pm UTC
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Between you and me, I fuckin hate e-learning. It's a PITA. They update these courses and always manage to get the "online classroom" on my day's off or when I'm off shift. Just brutal! I don't see any compensation from this. I pay my own way every day here and this additional time spent "training" is less time on the floor, where I GET PAID!
Although, some of the information is useful..but I use that term "useful" very loosely here.
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