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December 19, 2012 11:55 pm UTC
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Engine 4G63 6 Bolt Conversion Manley Pistons for Mistubishi 4G63 6 Bolt 9.0:1 Comp .5mm oversized Manley H-beam rods ARP Head studs Pollished Crankshaft Balance Shaft delete New Timing Belt New Water Pump New Oil Pump Cometic Head Gasket Crower Valve Springs Crower titanium Retainer Multi angle Valve Job New Valve Seals Stock Cams polished New gaskets and seals Transmission Jacks Stage 4 with 4 spyder center diff 5000kms old Quaife Front Diff Quaife Rear Diff Competition Stage 4 Clutch Suspension/Brakes Koni Shocks Ground control springs UMS urethane diff/subframe bushings Energy Suspension bushings installed Front and rear Sway bars Willwood 4 piston Brakes Hawk HPS Pads Russell Steel Braided Brake Lines Energy Suspension Engine Mount Electronics/engine management AEM EMS V1 ecu AEM 3 Bar MAP sensor AEM air temp sensor AEM AFR gauge AEM Boost control solinoid wired to ECU Autometer Boost Gauge Autometer EGT gauge Seimens 1250 CC Fuel injectors
what do yall suggest for cams, and a turbo setup
gt35 ?
also does anyone have any aftermarket cams or full turbo setups for sale ?
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 01:04 am UTC
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Bryan Lawrence
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Check the for sale section there are a few turbo setups for sale right now.
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 01:40 am UTC
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Depends on your goals.. FP4Rs or crower stage 3s would be good with that gt35 Or some crower stage 4s with a gt42r pull to 9000k Kevin k may still have his fp4rs and Jaden has hks 280s in his thread im sure youd enjoy those
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 01:53 am UTC
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thanks alot broski.
im looking to do about 400 - 500 reliably with aem meth
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 04:31 am UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Kelford 272's, FP 3076HTA. If you want an HTA Green, I'll sell you mine.
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 05:51 am UTC
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ok what about if i wanna go bigger than 5 in the future
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 01:49 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Well, first off, I'd start by actually forming your thoughts into properly punctuated sentences. 5. Posts must use correct spelling, grammar and punctuation.
Second, what is your intended use for the car? Are you drag racing? Lapping? AutoX? Show car? That list you have there, is that' what's currently on the car or is this a "wish list"? If you want to go bigger than 500WHP (Which in reality is like 600 crank) then you are going to need to do some research. Usually I don't reply to posts like this because it looks like you've done absolutely no research and want to mate a turbo to an engine with no care at all about how well it will work on the streets. Ever drive a fully built race car on the streets? If you are a dyno king, then you think about HP goals. If you are a driver, you want to know where to spend your money to gain the best results.
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 05:16 pm UTC
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hate to say it james but ryan's right. that list in particular will run you (off the top of my head) ten to fifteen grand, and if your goal is only 400hp or even 500hp, you don't need to spend that kind of dough. did you copy and paste someone else's mod list?
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 06:05 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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I wouldn't say I'm right or wrong on most of what I said, but I am right about this: 5. Posts must use correct spelling, grammar and punctuation.
Jay, I sent you a PM about this so I didn't have to do it publicly; Now I'm doing it publicly. Please clean up the grammar and punctuation. Oh Mike, that goes for you too. As an example, a way you could go about asking a question like this is: Hi, I'm in the process of building my engine. I would like to know from anyone's experience what turbo and cams would best suit my goals. Here is a quick rundown of the relevant information:
2G AWD 5 speed Manley/Manley 9.0:1 6 Bolt Built head, Crower internals
Goals are consistent 10.5 1/4's with 140MPH trap speeds. Car does see regular street use.
Thank you
When you are looking for information on a turbo, nobody gives a crap what kind of suspension you have. What does suspension have anything to do with the turbo? Also, your transmission has nothing to do with the turbo or cams unless it's between Auto/Manual. Again, do your research, don't throw up a big ass "Dis iz whud ah gotz er gunna git" list and expect everyone to have the perfect answer. If you actually researched, you'd see that I have the same block/head setup, and run Kelford 272's with an FP Green HTA on an Auto. And it hauls ass.
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 06:25 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Then have your computer serviced, your shift keys are broken.
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 20, 2012 08:44 pm UTC
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now now, let's not all be the grinch who stole Christmas. If James is truely after his goal, who are we to say anything? Understandbly he may have a lot of research to do, but we all started somewhere...all of us!! If I were you James, narrowing your goal down is step number one. Then from there, you can ask the board for recommendations on which parts to use and how to install them etc... I'm using a FP3052 (aka. gt30r) with HKS 272's and I plan to hit the 450 mark using meth. It's a streetable amount of horse power. And if I decide to cut loose on track days, I know I'll have a LOT of fun!!
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Re: new build
[Re: Jay Stacey]
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December 21, 2012 12:33 am UTC
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Sorry Ryan.. i failed english and grammer badly! Very honest statement Jay but don't need to be sorry to Ryan. Many very skilled people in this world lack grammar/punctuations. It's the way our brain works; some of us are outstanding with things we love doing but fail elsewhere no matter how simple they are. I am not saying stop using the spell checker or ingore rule #5. thats why im a grease monkey and work in a factory. After seeing your DSM work I am pretty sure you could do what Ryan is doing outhere for living If you put your time into it! Back to you James Devereaux
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 21, 2012 01:27 am UTC
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What I find funny, is Ryan is basically the ONLY moderator who locks up threads for "jiberish" crap, yet, when its him doing the nonsense in another's thread, all is well? This not being this first thread. If you DSM "gods" don't like coming on and talking about your hobby cuz people... wait sorry... "because" people aren't as gifted as you, then don't come on, OR don't look at threads that don't interest you. Its not our fault you wasted your time reading something you weren't interested in, wait for one that you can put your brilliant input. There's always people ripping on newbies or less educated guys, think that's really going to help the dsm community grow? Lots of the "GOOD GUYS" we look up to, or looked up to, basically push us away. I personally (and clearly many other board members) enjoy coming on the board and talking any BS i can about dsms, other cars, and anything that pops up in Bovis Fimus, because my girlfriend sure don't wanna hear it! God was once a man, he had to grow and learn, and was once, A NEWBIE
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 21, 2012 01:49 am UTC
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I think someone missed the point. The point we seasoned members on here are trying to get across is how the hell could you expect to get help when you don't take the time or effort to put a little grammar and punctuation in your posts. It's like verbal diarrhea trying to read it, and it makes my head hurt. I mean seriously... what kind of effort should we give you to help you when you don't offer the effort to form... a... proper... sentence. There's lots of knowledge here, and lots of people who are willing to help, but if you don't help yourself, we aren't going to spoon feed you. And no Kyle, I'm not the only Mod... there are others that do it just as much, we have a whole 2 areas of the board you can't see, and you don't know what goes on behind closed doors. So, unless you have something useful to contribute, move on. What I find funny is when someone like me comes on and asks you to please, (politely asks mind you) to take some time and effort to properly ask a question, after you've done some research, everyone takes it as "Oh, he's coming down hard on him..." I even gave an example of a way to word it. I don't care of what you are capable of. You could have rebuilt your first motor in the womb, I could give a sh!t, but take some fracking time to put your thoughts into a god damned sentence the rest of the world can fracking read it. We ask for effort, not perfection. I would welcome the OP to come and respond, otherwise, we are so way off topic it's not even worth it anymore. Last but not least: 0. Respect the role of the moderators. If you disagree with them, say so politely. Abuse of our VOLUNTEER moderators will not be tolerated. Moderators actions are not to be challenged publically. If you have a problem with a Moderators action please PM a Moderator to have your issue reviewed. There is usually a lot of thought and discussion behind the scenes of each action so please keep that in mind.
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 21, 2012 01:56 am UTC
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LOL, there's cookies and a free T-Shirt!
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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December 21, 2012 05:03 am UTC
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I would also add that we are very well behaved compared to the group that was here in the past. I have gone back and read some threads, didn't take much to set some people off.
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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January 04, 2013 06:49 am UTC
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that is a list of current mods. sitting at evolution autosport in maple ridge bc
not paying anywhere near 15k with tuning and the engine build. I plan on mainly street driving and the occasional trip to the track or drag strip.
I have driven fully built street cars on the street my gtr was 608 whp. Im just looking to have some fun pretty much.
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Re: new build
[Re: Reza Mirza]
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January 04, 2013 06:57 am UTC
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little kids ? thanks alot for flaming me on my post if you have nothing nice to say kindly leave.
Im 28, have built a few racecars in the past and got into dsm's through my brother darren akey another member of this board.
Im far from a kid, I have about 3 days off from work every 2 months working as a production consultant in the canadian oil field. ( as anyone with oil and gas knowledge will tell you its pretty hard to be in my position at my age)
cost isnt a factor as i gross over 1600 a day.
I just want something fun to rip around in during the summer on days off. and the occasional track trip.
thats the story in a nutshell the nitpicking about proper grammar and the stabs of calling me a kid are pretty weak guys. Im here for help on one of the best online resources for dsm. * insert verbal fart noise here *
Maybe you should all keep in mind that not everyone has been in the dsm scene for 10 plus years like alot of you you gotta start learning somewhere.
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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January 04, 2013 07:33 am UTC
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And another thing....
I included the suspension and other sh!t because if you read the topic is says new build not "looking for a turbo"
basically want an autocross car that will run 10s j
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Re: new build
[Re: James Devereaux]
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January 04, 2013 08:46 pm UTC
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Ryan Laliberte
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Well if you're looking for a good AutoX turbo, I'd suggest an FP68HTA, and you'd only have to work half a day to afford it.
I'd also suggest an HKS 272 cam. Those would cost you the other half of the day.
Sounds like you've got the rest of the build already done by the shop. Those two final mods will probably finish it up!
I just love guys who come on here and flaunt how much they make. $1600 a day.... and... your... building.... a.... Talon.
Anyway, based on my own experience I've gained through searching, reading, and learning on my own, I'd suggest the above for a combo. The FP68HTA has run 10s many times. It's a great street turbo due to its small frame and quick spool.
The HKS 272 are no longer in production but they are still out there. Arguably the best cam for our cars on a street/strip application.
Do you have any pics of your setup?
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Re: new build
[Re: Luke Decking]
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January 04, 2013 09:00 pm UTC
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1600 a day? TELL ME that is a typo....
Hook me up with one of those jobs, I'd pay Ron to build me a nasa approved 2G and have god piss for fuel. hahaha. work as a heavy duty mechanic for a few years then start riggin. I was lucky my old ladys father is a consultant and got me the job but you have to know every single aspect of oil and gas through and through 100%.
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Re: new build
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January 04, 2013 09:03 pm UTC
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No pictures as of yet ryan. thanks for the tid bits youre a dolly hahaha. I have pictures of the vehicle its a purple 2g with grey interior. Its an ex autocross car that the owner of evolution planned on building himself but never found the time. Im sure some of you remember the 2g that andre sold on here that was done by the same shop. I dont like to flaunt anything just saying i have worked very hard and sacrificed alot to be where i am today. poor grammar and all
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