I dont even know much about the machine we have other than the fact its not running yet. Who knows when it will be. I think it d be neat to make these things but who knows if we can or when it will be ready, more of a thought than a reality. If that could ever happen you guys will know about it

I think Brian's dad hit the nail on the head. You have to be making larger quantities of these parts to make it worthwhile. It is ok to do one as a favour to a friend every now and then...but I don't anyone who can afford to work for very long making small parts at the pricing our parts bring.

Anyways, Mike, if your dad needs any help getting the machine going, maybe I can help out..Is it in the garage? Is it 3 phase power, or single phase?

Oh I guess he said the motors are 440V and we dont have 440V. Thats all he told me.

Ziggy, just wondering if you know if mine ever shipped out.

Brandon,

yessir...there was a bit of a shipping mixup, things were delayed a day...so I sent them UPS from NY on Friday night.

Do you want tracking info? Should I pm it to you?

Mike...so if it is 440, I am guessing it is 3 phase powered? Is your dad planning to switch the motors, or is he going to run 3 phase power? You can get a phase converter to generate 220v 3 phase from your household current, and then a transformer to step that up to 440. I assume the machine came from the US? 440 is very common there, very uncommon here.

Lol I know nothing about it. His friend bought some shop full of junk and this was one of the things he hauled out of there. Theres a hoist sitting in there too but its under the floor unfortunately. Im shure he can get it going, wanting to spend the money to is another story...

Sure if you have tracking info, might as well.

1st pieces showed up at the door today

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8845&d=1245116172

Looks like my brackets should be here Thursday

Brake lines came in the mail today. Test fit them onto the caliper. The banjo hole is the correct diameter for the cobra banjo bolt. What I did find though is that the fitting isn't "fat" enough. So I will need to shorten up the banjo bolt, and maybe tap a few more threads onto the banjo bolt. Kind of a bummer, but in the end it's a pretty minor issue.

I also checked out ebay, and saw these bolts for the cobra calipers:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Must...em19a5744ca6&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116

Those are different than the ones I got from Ford Racing Parts. The ones in that auction would work perfect because the distance from the top threads, to the bottom of the bolt head, looks like the right distance. The ones I have, that distance is much larger.

http://www.buyfordracing.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=509cPath=6

Those are the ones I bought from them. You can see that the threads kind of die off,but it's still kind of threaded, well that part won't thread into the calipers, and is the root of the issue. If it was threaded all the way up, it'd work fine.

But I'll just see if I can modify this one and just run it.

But if anyone else out there is ordering parts, I would recommend NOT buying the banjo bolts from where I did.

Well went to the local auto parts store (called Checker/O'Reilly). They had some M10 x 1.5 x 22.8mm banjo bolts. Bought two of them for 10.65 after tax. These ones look like they are going to work perfect.

Checker/O'Reilly Part# - 13940
http://shop.oreillyauto.com/ProductDetail.aspx?MfrCode=DOR&MfrPartNumber=13940

So lesson learned. Don't buy the banjo bolts from the Ford Racing shop as they have some goofy threading that won't work. Instead, just go to your local parts store and get some

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8877&d=1245199156
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8878&d=1245199229

Finally made a decision on Rotors. I ended up just ordering a standard set of blanks from my local Napa. Not sure if you guys have Napa in Canada, but IMO they carry the highest quality stuff of all the regular parts store chains. They price matched one of the competitors, so they will be 39.99/ea. I could spend more on better ones, but these guys are right down the street, and I have a feeling I'll end up warping whatever I use. Once I can't resurface these anymore, they're cheap enough that I won't feel bad when I have to replace them.

That is hopefully it for parts that I need.

Brings this setup I ran to a grand total of $548.25 USD, and that is after all tax/shipping charges.

Compare that to the Baer kit which the cheapest I've found is 859.99, and that's BEFORE tax and/or shipping. Probably over $900 after that is taken into account. Over $300 in savings!!! That is as long as it all works out, and I don't have to buy anything else, ha

I'm going to be gone for work for awhile, so it may be a few weeks until I get this installed, but I'll share install pics and details when that time comes.

Here's the calipers I bought:
http://napaonline.com/MasterPages/N...ption=Brake+Rotor+Only+-+Front+-+Premium

But again, they price matched Autozone's rotors, so I'm getting them for 39.99/ea.

What car where these rotors for? I recall some using 300M rotors. Do the brake lines look like they are the correct length?

The rotors are from a 94-04 Cobra. I told the parts guy to get me some for a 95 Cobra.

As for the lines, I'll let you know when I know more. I don't even have the mounting brackets yet so don't know exactly where the calipers will end up.

^^^
The 300M rotors are 11.7", I have them in the Mustang GT PBR calipers.

I think those might just be jobber replacement for Mustang Cobra?
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Yep, I forgot to press Submit

Looking good. Keep us informed please, ESPECIALLY on the length of bolts you are going to need for mounting the calipers and brackets

Yeah. I got the bracket kit in the mail today. For some reason I thought it was going to come with the mounting hardware, oh well. So looks like there will be some more money having to be spent on fasteners, which is pretty minor though. I'll see what I can grab from work, and but whatever else I need to buy. Also the brackets, are they made of carbon steel? I'm a bit worried about them rusting, as it looks like some surface rust is already forming. I do powder coating out of my garage, so the next time I do something I think I'm going to coat these so that they don't rust.

So yeah, got the kit in the mail.
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8880&d=1245371943

Got the rotors from Napa just a few minutes ago.
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8879&d=1245371943

So all I need is to start installing it, and figure out what hardware to use.

I will keep updating as I progress.

Brandon,

I was pretty sure I had told you I don't include the bolts, and the whole reason for that is no-one has ever gotten back to me and told me exactly what lengths were needed. Everyone tells me they will let me know when they do their install, and no-one ever does.....I am counting on you!!

I don't know if it is hard to find metric hardware in the US? In any case, let me know please. If you want, I will re-imburse you the cost of the bolts ...

Nah no problem. US Standard sizes are more available here, but I wouldn't say metric is hard to find. Everwhere has it, just not quite the assortment of the standard stuff.

We have a good supply of metric stuff at work, except it's all just zinc stuff, not SS which I'd prefer. But I can atleast size up everything with the stuff from my work, then just get the SS stuff from the hardware store.

I'll let you know!

Ziggy, do you have any pics of these brackets mounted? Just wondering which way they are supposed to go on exactly.

Don't use SS, its brittle and will snap. Stick to a grade 8 or 10.9 bolt. The stuff at work is probably better.

SS is pretty, not strong. Just because its expensive doesn't mean its better.

Ziggy, i still owe you that info........lol. I think mine are a bit long. Next time my wheel comes off (and i remember ) i'll get them for you. Brandan might be more reliable.

We quite a bit of SS hardware on our cranes here at work. If it's strong/safe enough to move nuclear fuel, then I'm sure it'll be good enough for my brakes.

The reason I want SS is so it will never rust.

Mike, you are probably one of MANY who were going to get me the sizes.

maybe you can get brandon a pic of them installed....

No pics, or even a cheap MSPaint diagram showing which way these things go?

^^^
I'm guessing they will only fit one way..
Line them up to where your stock caliper brackets mount up at.

it should also help to figure out which holes are tapped in the brackets and the calipers and where the bracket mounts. Tapped holes in one part will line up with NON tapped holes in the other.

Mike, were you able to get a pic?

I held them up real quick before I left for Omaha, and really they could go on 4 different ways. Obviouslly only 1 way is the right way. 2 of the holes are tapped so I'm assuming those are the ones to use to attach it to the stock mounting points. Now you can line up the 2 tapped holes 2 different ways. One way is going to be upside down, but I'm not sure which way that is yet. Then, you can mount it on the outside, or the inside, of the stock mounting points. Which is it, out or in? And which way isn't upside down? I don't know. Rather than try it, then find out it's wrong and re-do it, possibly up to 4 times, it'd just make it that much easier if there was just a picture and/or diagram of how exactly they go on.

Which way are you "supposed" to put the bolts on? Head towards the engine or head towards the wheel?

I'm in Omaha for work for a couple weeks, so I can't just go in the garage and try things, which is why I'm asking. I may get to go home for a couple days, and if I do I have a lot of crap to try and finish, this being one of them, and I'd like to just be prepared so I can go and knock this out as quickly as possible without dilly dallying around.

Pics/Diagrams, anyone???

There are some nice pics on this thread : http://www.ca.dsm.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=184306&fpart=7

^^^
Oops.
I knew about that thread too, sorry, Brandon.

I guess the moral of this story is: Search!

That link didn't work for me... This one seems to work:

http://www.ca.dsm.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=184306

Good pics, thanks!

Well I got to come home for one day. Didn't get much done, but got a little done.

Here's the pics after I ground away some of the dust shields, and put the brackets on:
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8908&d=1246150421
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8909&d=1246150435
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8907&d=1246150421

I used M12 x 1.75 x 25mm WITH a lockwasher. Here is the back of the bracket to show how this length worked, but remember there is also a lockwasher being used:
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8910&d=1246150435
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8911&d=1246150445

The length worked good, but I'd think 30mm length would be ideal. Lowe's didn't have 30, so I'm going to stick with the 25mm. The next length they did have was 35 which seemed to be a little too long, they stuck out the back a tad too much for my liking. the 25mm had probably 3-4 threads into the bracket which should be fine, but if again, ideally I think 30mm.

So, there ya go. In my eyes, a 30mm length (With a lockwasher used) would be the ideal length.

I tried using some 35mm length ones for the Bracket to Caliper bolts. They worked, but only went in with only a couple threads. There is a lot of room to thread in these calipers. So I'm going to try to get my hands on some 40mm or 45mm, both will probably work fine. Either of those in my eyes should work perfectly. And again, that is with the use of a lockwasher under the head of the bolt. Just with the spacers, the 35mm are just barely hanging on, too short IMO. But I left them in just for the time being, and to get a nice pic of everything mounted up
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8912&d=1246150445


Some other misc pics:
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8902&d=1246144436
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8906&d=1246144464
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8903&d=1246144452
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8904&d=1246144452
http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8905&d=1246144464

cool

Awesome Brandon!

Any chance of a kit available from you Ziggy in the near future?

I can't express enough how this thread is lessening my headache of putting together a decent kit that actually WORKS.

Thanks Brandon!

No problem! I'm back in Omaha now. So this won't be able to be finished until next weekend. And I'll post up more pics after completetion in a week or so.

Ok. working on this, I have another question. I know for the 2g rear camber adjusting bolt kit it was recommende that I use grade 10.9 bolts, NOT grade 8.8. How about for these kits? Do you think the better bolts are necessary, or is it overkill? Is Nick Boers ever on here anymore? would love his opinion on this.

I personally used 8.8. I can understand the desire to have 10.9 bolts on upper control arm mounts. But IMO I wouldn't feel it to be neccessary on these bolts. It's not like 8.8 is pure junk...

But then again, I'm a software engineer, not a mechanical engineer, so in the end I'm no expert on the matter.

My 2 cents

Well I'm home. Time to get back at it !!

I ordered the bolts today, and ordered grade 10.9. I am thinking they are about 50% more money, but still peanuts in the big picture, and better to err on the side of caution.

I AM also working on a complete package INCLUDING the calipers and PowerSlot rotors....but it will still be a little while..

Ziggy your going to end up tempting me to buy something else !!
I better wear my brakes out quick

Well I picked up 4 M12x1.75x40mm bolts for my bracket to caliper bolts. Here is a picture of what this length looks like with a lockwasher uncompressed. About 6 threads. Should be 7 threads once that lockwasher is compressed. I feel good about the length, but if done again I'd probably go with a 45mm.

http://www.mitsustyle.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8925&d=1246585134

So again, I'm no mechanical engineer, but just using my mechanical judgement, I'd say the ideal length bolts if using a lockwasher are 30mm for the bracket mounting bolts, and 45mm for the caliper bolts.

Good to hear man. I suppose if I was a vendor, I'd do the same just to be safe. At the hardware store here, the 8.8's were 1.40, and the 10.9's were 1.90. I'm just thrifty like that

What lengths did you end up getting?