No VIN plates anywhere on the vehicle. Door, dash, or engine bay. I don't even think I've seen a stick on any of the fenders either but I can't say I looked that hard.
My bad, it's actually a '97 VIN

Yeah, it's a '97 VIN, so he should get a sniffer test. And, since it's now AWD he can probably even convince them to run it as a hotrod, if he can convince them to run it at all.

The no vin tag might be the kicker. We use a bar code reader. But thats not to say you cant manually input them. Depends on the place. Johnny will have to talk to them.

I might have worked something out for tomorrow morning. Every place I was in contact with today said "pfft. yea, right...." I understand where they're coming from, just a PITA for me....

I have a bit of experience with this because I also have a (completely legit) weird VIN on one of my cars. Unfortunately I don't have good news...

On 99% of cars they can scan the VIN and it automatically enters into the computer. They *can* enter it manually, although they might say they can't. But if they enter it manually then they're subject to additional scrutiny and audit from MTO. So they'll want to match the VIN on the ownership against the VIN on the car (red flag), take pictures of your VIN (red flag) and so on. At the end of the test an MTO guy might pop up on the screen and ask for additional info via Web cam.

You only hope is to find someone lazy that just enters the VIN without checking against the car, and the MTO guy is sleeping during your test.

I'd look into getting it fixed. I wonder if you can order a new door jamb sticker from Chrysler/Mitsu.

I did manage to find a shop in the US that can produce the B-pillar sticker, but it has to be ordered through a collision shop and they're $80each.

I was speaking to someone at Mitsubishi a while back and they said that they can get new stickers and plates but it's quite the ordeal. Someone from head office needs to be there to install it and blah blah blah.

Push Mitsu for a new door jamb sticker. The "guy from head office" sounds like a BS excuse from someone that didn't want to help. Cars get repaired / repainted all the time and some of them need new stickers.

Wouldn't be faster to just re vin at the MTO. Those Auditors can be real dicks sometimes and they can jump in anytime during the test.

How about making your own barcode?

http://www.barcoding.com/upc/
The barcode type is supposedly "Code 39"

Get an image of a legit sticker, break out Photoshop, insert your proper barcode and other specific info (if any), print it out, get a clear sticker and stick it on. If it scans correctly, no one is going to look at it twice. You can test the scan with your smartphone, I just used "Red Laser" to test reading it on my truck, no problem. It even identified the barcode type as "Code 39".

Just what me and Johnny discussed over the phone yesterday I sent him template already

All is taken care of for the time being, but I will be doing research into a new b pillar sticker in the near future

FYI, the code for our VIN I believe is Code 39 Full ASCII. It is the closest I could find.

Thanks for all the input and help folks!

Touche.....

An interesting article for those who are looking to refine their emissions tune

http://www.superstreetonline.com/how-to/engine/impp-1109-how-to-cheat-an-emissions-test/

http://www.canadianautodealer.ca/2016/03/ontario-cancels-drive-clean-test-fee/

Can anyone confirm this? Would bexpect freaking awesome if it's true!

Yeah it's true, they have been talking about it for a while but now they are trying to force safety more often.

Like the article says, they need to cancel the whole stupid program. It doesn't do anything good for anybody.

You think drive clean is bad... just wait... Safeties every 2nd year!



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/ontario-vehicle-safety-checks-1.3696315

They have been doing this in Germany for some time, and they are REALLY strict...no unsafe cars on the road there!

If they give us an Autobahn.. I will gladly accept safeties every 2 years

They will never give us an autobahn here....people would have to learn to drive first, and that is never going to happen here.

Lol yeah. People already freak out doing 115 in the hammer lane. Would be a sh!t show if they have to go any faster.

Not so much that they would have to go faster, but they would need to learn to make lane changes and stay out of the left hand lane. Riding in the left lane like lemmings would NOT be tolerated on the autobahn.

What *would* be nice and probably more realistic would be variable speed limits, particularly for super straight and typically empty sections of road like the 401 between Windsor and London (empty during non-business hours/weekend mornings) and the 402. When I'm driving back to Michigan in the middle of the night and I'm the only car in either direction for miles there's no reason I shouldn't be able to go 180 if the road and weather conditions allow it (here's where the variable part comes into play), instead of locked in at 120 because anything over that and you'll get pulled over by a bored OPP officer.

I always do variable when it's late at night, or at least I used to as I am not normally driving at that time.

If you haven't gotten it yet get Waze, I go 120 up highway 10 all the time during rush hour because it's almost gauranteed that another wazer has already done the route recently and will mark police if they see them

I know there was talk of upping the limits to 120km/h here in Quebec. Texas already has 85 MPH, about 135km/h.

It'll probably never happen though.

All the highways here in Michigan are 70mph i.e. 112kph, but you can always get away with at least 80 (128 kph) and most of the time 85-90mph (136-144kph) without worry.

To be fair, on the 400 series of highways it's almost always fine to do 125 without worry of being pulled over. 130 they don't often bug you either if the road conditions allow it.

I've driven some of the 80mph highways out in the AZ/CA area of the states and it's pretty nice doing 90-95mph without worrying about getting pulled over.

In the city area. As soon as there's green/ditches between directions, like you said cops are bored, and will pull you over for 120 if they feel like it. If you're doing 130 on the western part of the 403 just before it dumps into the 401 by Woodstock, you will be getting a ticket

There will never be higher than 100 here. Environmental reasons are top of the things blocking it. (insider tip)

In the states, I am too paranoid to go over by more than 5mph. I notice new york plates here in Ontario don't go over posted by much.

+1 on waze. I have it on at all times on the highways. Saved my ass many times. I am a Royalty Wazer now Ranking 14,756! (76,447 points)

Nice work Chuck! My account got reset at least once during the google transition and a phone change so I lost everything but I am a Knight Wazer, 25,772 points here.

I do know that section is particularly bad for cops. I never took the 403 much (especially not going West) but never take it now that my gf doesn't live downtown anymore so it's one less thing to worry about, thankfully. I do always find it amusing when I'm cruising at 120-125 in the middle of Sunday night driving back to MI and then a car blows by me only for me to pass them pulled over 10k up the road, often times with more than one cop car behind them (i.e. >50 over). When you're the only car on the road, you have the cops FULL attention...don't be stupid. People never learn.

I've never used Waze...heard it's brutal on batteries. How is it on data?

Certain states are worse than others, NY being one of them, almost on par with Quebec, speed traps everywhere, at all hours.

PA, Ohio, FL, VT, NH and ME are pretty lenient from my past experience. I have 3 written warnings from VT lol.

I've traveled across New Brunswick more than a handful of times and seen a cop, oh, twice maybe. NB is a 110kmh province btw.

All GPS is never fantastic on battery, my phone is always plugged in when using it and my phone still charges with 2a. Data use is pretty minimal, used 70 mb last month. That's a hour drive each day and then one or two trips during the weekends.

Hmm, is there a Waze app for Windows? I could load it up on my tablet, which is powered by the car and I'll have it tethered to my phone.

Google says yes

https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/store/p/waze/9wzdncrfj2m3

This made me look at mine. 64,289 on my personal phone and 153,097 on my work phone. I rack up a lot of esso points also.

I hear ya man. I never did anything under 80mph driving out in the prairies (Alberta to Manitoba). The best I did was Medicine Hat to Moose Jaw in 2:45. The same goes for the whole trip back to Ontario through the states, 80mph was not only a minimum speed (towing with the taller 5th gear doesn't do much for keeping oil pressure up...) but it seemed to be the social norm.
The bottom line is, flow of traffic is your best bet, unless they're being a total ass about it.

I'll never forget a speeding ticket I got going through MT. Was doing 95 in a 70, and thought we were going to get wrecked my the officer when we saw the lights on. Ticket was $20 paid on the spot, or come back to MT and fight it. lol. Kept the ticket.

In a perfect world, I think a posted limit of 120 is acceptable on 400 series highways outside of major city centers. 100 through the GTA, because lets call a spade a spade here... not many people can do that speed acceptably. That could cause some kind of traffic issues with the increased volume and reduced speed, but meh.. we're just talking here.

As for waze, if you aren't using it, you should be. Google gets it's accident information from waze users. The app is incredible in terms of displaying current conditions.
I wish the navigation was a little more user friendly, in terms of selecting a certain location on a map vs from a list.
Either way, Royalty Wazer here; Rank 7000, 116,164pts