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Everybody sign This #53964
December 22, 2002 03:22 am UTC
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Everybody on his board should sign this..
www.petitiononline.com/sect1722/petition.html


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Re: Everybody sign This #53965
December 22, 2002 04:08 am UTC
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Signed


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Re: Everybody sign This #53966
December 22, 2002 06:48 am UTC
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signed
but we need mails to his office.

Re: Everybody sign This #53967
December 22, 2002 07:14 am UTC
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One more signature ....

Re: Everybody sign This #53968
December 22, 2002 06:01 pm UTC
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Signed.
This bill is a load of crap.

Re: Everybody sign This #53969
December 22, 2002 06:54 pm UTC
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Signed and done.
Hopefully this petition will get the government working for us, law abiding people.


Pop quiz hot shot. What do you do when you put 10 grand under the hood of your honda and are still doing 15s? What do you do?
Re: Everybody sign This #53970
December 22, 2002 07:40 pm UTC
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done and done. Gotta stick it to the man.


Eat S**T
Re: Everybody sign This #53971
December 22, 2002 10:00 pm UTC
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I would, and I support the logic behind the petition, but, being from BC, I cannot.


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Re: Everybody sign This #53972
December 23, 2002 01:52 am UTC
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the title of the thread is too aggresive to draw attention.

Maybe, A petition for ... or something would be a abetter choice

Amin

Re: Everybody sign This #53973
December 23, 2002 05:42 am UTC
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I hate the fact we can't enjoy a hobby any more. Yes there should be no street racing. But its wrong to stop someone from having a safe hobby.

oh yeah it signed


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Re: Everybody sign This #53974
December 23, 2002 12:42 pm UTC
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WTF...

It just piss me off. Go away for 6 months to "protect" freedom and I have to come back home to fight something that could jeperdise my own freedom...

Bitch mode off!!!

Moi.


Rouge!!!
Re: Everybody sign This #53975
December 23, 2002 01:22 pm UTC
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Signed.
The automotive industry is in enough of a slump. None of us can afford this crap.
Sean


Call me at 905 415 0080 for any parts related inquiries you may need. Mention you got my number from this site and you get a 10% discount on parts!
Re: Everybody sign This #53976
December 23, 2002 06:42 pm UTC
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I've signed it and passed the link on to friends.

Making it illegal to have aftermarket parts on a street driven car is the single WORST thing the government could do. It would kill our favourite hobby and make us all criminals. bah

I hope this petition works.


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Re: Everybody sign This #53977
December 23, 2002 08:06 pm UTC
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If they pass this law I will move to Cuba rotflmao

But seriously how are they going to notice if you have an ACT clutch or a stock clutch this is stupid.

Signed!

Re: Everybody sign This #53978
December 23, 2002 08:28 pm UTC
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So if the law will state that every car that is modified will end up racing because it has the right parts is like judging book by its cover and there fore Every man should be charged with rape because we have the "equipment to do it...(haha)
I see no differnce between modded 385hp Talon and factory 385hp supercharged Mustang..


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Re: Everybody sign This #53979
December 23, 2002 10:05 pm UTC
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Exactly, if I could afford to buy a Porsche 911 I would, but I can't so I mod my Talon to the horsepower potential of a 911, whats wrong with that? doesn't mean I'm gonna race the car on the street. Should I be punished just because I can't afford an expensive, fast sports car? hell no.

Cars don't race, its the drives behind the wheel that do, doesn't matter if the car is modded or stock.


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Re: Everybody sign This #53980
December 23, 2002 10:16 pm UTC
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We've got to get this to as many people as possible so post this on every automotive forum you can think of!

Re: Everybody sign This #53981
December 23, 2002 11:12 pm UTC
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Signed
eek

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Re: Everybody sign This #53982
December 25, 2002 12:35 am UTC
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Signed.


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Re: Everybody sign This #53983
December 27, 2002 06:05 pm UTC
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Quote
Originally posted by Ghislain Goudreau:
WTF...

It just piss me off. Go away for 6 months to "protect" freedom and I have to come back home to fight something that could jeperdise my own freedom...

Bitch mode off!!!

Moi.
Good job man. I'd like to think I speak for everyone when I say "thanks"

All I could think of as I was reading the bill was: aren't we at war? Don't Al Queda and Hamas walk amongst us? Wasn't some scum photographing the Canadian Parliament for recon?

Shouldn't we be pushing anti-terroism bills, power of search, surveillance etc etc.

Canada hasn't got the a$$frack yet but when they do I'm sure a bill like this would be shelved. shocked

Re: Everybody sign This #53984
December 27, 2002 06:07 pm UTC
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Time for a protest.

Lets call all modified cars to the 401 and block it off a la trucker-style creating a 1/4 mile track.

Media would eat it up. laugh

Re: Everybody sign This #53985
December 28, 2002 01:49 am UTC
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Quote
Originally posted by David Pankew:
Time for a protest.

Lets call all modified cars to the 401 and block it off a la trucker-style creating a 1/4 mile track.

Media would eat it up. laugh
It might work better if everyone showed up in showroom stock econoboxes and minivans, just to show you don't need a modified car to race your car onthe street. laugh

Oh... and BTW... signed it.

Re: Everybody sign This #53986
December 28, 2002 02:21 am UTC
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Phuk off Dudes,, Why should I try and break the Canadian laws with pushing my Ford Aspire to go above 110KMS/HR. You phukkers are rebels... naughty laugh wink

Re: Everybody sign This #53987
December 28, 2002 04:50 am UTC
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Quote
Originally posted by Bob Brown:
Phuk off Dudes,, Why should I try and break the Canadian laws with pushing my Ford Aspire to go above 110KMS/HR. You phukkers are rebels... bird laugh laugh

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nariman Farsad:
<strong>If they pass this law I will move to Cuba rotflmao

But seriously how are they going to notice if you have an ACT clutch or a stock clutch this is stupid.

Signed!
I would move somewhere that the posted speed limit is 120 and the Police's Cressida can never catch up. I willmake sure I can out run the 4.x Lexus 470(Land Cruiser) too.

Re: Everybody sign This #53988
December 28, 2002 06:42 am UTC
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That's just retarded


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Re: Everybody sign This #53989
December 28, 2002 09:04 am UTC
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I really think this online petition will have minimal effect. We all need to call our provincial MP. Also, the petition only covers section 172.2 and I am sure people here will disagree with other parts also. We need to make sure every MP in Ontario gets multiple calls regarding this bill if it is to be stopped. Incase anyone hasn't read the bill yet I suggest you do http://www.ontla.on.ca/documents/Bills/37_Parliament/Session3/b241_e.htm


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Re: Everybody sign This #53990
December 28, 2002 04:13 pm UTC
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i'll call the MP on monday

Re: Everybody sign This #53991
December 30, 2002 11:43 pm UTC
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Signed...I can not believe this crap! bitch


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Re: Everybody sign This #53992
December 31, 2002 08:23 pm UTC
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Re: Everybody sign This #53993
December 31, 2002 08:25 pm UTC
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Re: Everybody sign This #53994
January 04, 2003 08:47 am UTC
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signed


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Re: Everybody sign This #53995
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If i could sign this, i most definatly would.If that bill passes there, it would be only a matter of time that it would make it's way out here! What a bunch horse sh!t! bird THEM!!!


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Re: Everybody sign This #53996
January 09, 2003 03:57 pm UTC
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I'm making a paper copy of the petition and bring it into work (Canadaian Tire) I'm gonna try to get the owner and management behind it and I'm gonna push to get all our automotive customers to sign.

a petition may not have a big effect, but if you hand in several hundred (or thousand) signatures as well as get people to contact thier MPP... SOMEONE will sit up and notice that we won't take this lieing down. I like the idea of a rally or something to give this media coverage, but we shouldn't engage in any sort of racing as that would just prove to the gov. that this bill SHOULD be passed. if we blocked off a major section of an Ontario road, the media would be there in no time, then we would have our voices heard across the province.

The biggest problem we face is that the government has included this little bit that we are fighting against into a larger Bill that most people would support. The rest of Bill 241 is fine... but we CAN NOT allow section 172.2(1) to become law. That is the part that adversly affects the performance car enthusiasts. Oh... and if I'm reading this right... this bill will also affect motorcycles and trucks that have "prescribed" parts... not just cars. Everyone, take a few minutes of your time and send a letter to your MPP... if they get several hundred of these things opposing the Bill, we may have some support in Queens Park... NO politician wanst to look bad with an election comming up!

Re: Everybody sign This #53997
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signed.


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Re: Everybody sign This #53998
January 11, 2003 06:16 pm UTC
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OK heres the section ...
Prescribed substances, equipment for racing prohibited

172.2 (1)
No person shall drive or permit to be driven on a highway a motor vehicle with a prescribed part, containing a prescribed substance or equipped with prescribed equipment in prescribed circumstances.

Ok, thats what were pissed about ....
But what about this last part ...

Regulations
172.2 (9)
The Lieutenant Governor in Council may make regulations,

(a) prescribing substances, parts and equipment commonly used in racing for the purpose of this section;

(b) prescribing circumstances for the purposes of subsection (1);

(c) exempting any class of persons or vehicles from any requirement or provision of this section or of any regulation made under this section, prescribing conditions for any such exemptions and prescribing different requirements for different classes of persons or vehicles.


[part (a)] ..this could be any part or substance .. including gas,oil. Or part/vehicle.
Heck, for racing .. no one even NEEDS any modified parts. They can just race a stock car,
or an S.U.V. (which usually end up rolled over in the ditch as a result) lol . But on the serious side .. this part also bites. annoy

[part (c)] So .. this means that one person can determine what we can put in a car/who can do it/ and to what car we an do it to ? Great ..another pencil pusher's gonna make living hell for us car guys (and gals).

Re: Everybody sign This #53999
January 12, 2003 10:37 pm UTC
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Signed , sealed, delivered. Thanks Paul.

As far as I'm concerned The Ontario government, Ministry of Transportation and the rest of those neer-do-well lobbyists can shove a hot exhaust muffler tip up their ass.


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