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STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( #308784
July 23, 2009 03:53 am UTC
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I need to vent so what a better place than my favourite forum.

It's Saturday night, got some people over for a get together.
About 2:30am now and 5 of us are just sitting around in the basement talking about every day sh!t, when my alarm key goes off.

My girlfriend and I learned our lesson when our DSM was hit and run in a plaza parking lot last winter.

Anywho, we run outside and all I see is an IS250, parked on what I thought was a driveway infront of my vehicle. I thought at first that maybe it was their fart can exhaust that set it off. I was parked on the street. All of a sudden I hear "Oh my God!!" I come out further to see that the IS250 had actually crashed into a tree head on.

I raced to the two people, a girl and guy to make sure they were okay. The first thing she said to me was "I was telling my friend an emotional story and lost control. I'm so sorry, I'll pay for everything!!!!" Me: "..........what?" I turn back to see my entire rear quarter panel and wheel smashed in.

Long story short, not only were they both drinking, but the driver, 22 female, blew way over the limit. She offered me 2gs to not involve the cops. I said no way, and obviously called the police.

As of right now it's not looking good, and given the black book value of a 1998 Talon TSI AWD, her insurance may look to lowball me in a write off. Cars can be fixed, but man does this hurt. I had the car parked for 3 weeks waiting on my damn rear strut mounts. I just put the car back on the road last Monday!!!

Not only was she intoxicated but the tow truck driver informed me the next day that he found weed all in the cup holders. So pissed...

Thanks for letting me vent smile

Here are the pics though:

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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Allicock] #308785
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OMG YOUR POOR CAR!! If they write it off you can buy it back for like $500 and fix it. Dont take the 1st off they give you, and make sure its plus taxes. Good luck, Im sure you will need it! frown


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Tara Matthews] #308787
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Oh man, that's brutal.

I could tell by the look of her car that yours was going to be pretty messed up.

Regardless, you did the right thing by not taking the 2 grand 'sweep it under the rug' offer (although I'm sure you would have after you hear the lowball offer from the insurance company).

People like that shouldn't be on the road. Stupid and irresponsible. Weed in the cup holders and all....

Glad no one was hurt.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Jay Warwick (Pham)] #308789
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That's bullshit man, I hope they give you a decent amount if they decide to write it off!

Good thing that you called the cops though, she needs to learn, "emotional story" probably just finished smoking a J and laughing about how high they are while driving home.

IS that rear rim still fine?


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Brandon Clement] #308791
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Hollly FRACK! @!#%#%!#%!! !!! DUMB B!$#TCH!!
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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Lane] #308794
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frack, that hurts seeing that man.

She's stupid and deveserves everything she's gets.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Anthony Hiscock] #308797
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That's horrible, too bad she'll just get a slap on the wrist and next time she'll kill someone. The drunk driver who killed my friends Dad had 4 previous DUI's and a suspended license.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Cody Dyck] #308804
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Originally Posted by Cody Dyck
That's horrible, too bad she'll just get a slap on the wrist and next time she'll kill someone. The drunk driver who killed my friends Dad had 4 previous DUI's and a suspended license.


Not anymore Cody, our new laws will get her some pretty serious sentence.

Mike, wow. That just sucks man. If they don't write it off, your car will never feel the same again. If they do write it off, buy it back and fix it. Looks like some rear suspension and body work to me, as long as the frame isn't bent.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Ryan Laliberte] #308806
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Hopefully you'll get a fair settlement and/or you insurance don't dick you around. Goodluck!


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Joe Esmama] #308807
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Good luck with your car man, that's really sad to see.

People like that are pathetic, and deserve everything they get. She is lucky she didn't kill someone, this time.

Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: EK] #308812
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Wow. Sorry to hear that, Mike, and I wish you luck with the insurance/repairs/etc. Glad to hear you called the police. I must say though, when I saw that IS250, I thought your car would have been much worse.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Gates Perry] #308821
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We were just informed yesterday that one of our clients spent the night in jail following a DUI (female as well, but not 22).

That's the 3rd DSM now this year alone that was hit by a drunk driver - unreal. I still can't believe people do this.


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Brutal hope everything turns out OK.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Ray Hockley] #309021
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Ouch!!!

Sorry to hear about your car. Hope everything works out.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Lukas Warzynski] #309039
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Lock her up and throw away the key...


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Rob Gripper] #309047
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sorry to hear, good luck...

if you end up looking for another DSM, im selling mine tongue lol


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Rob Gripper] #309050
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Originally Posted by Rob Gripper
Lock her up and throw away the key...


I agree, there is no excuse for drunk driving. And even though I am sad to see a DSM get damaged, that could have been some person on the side of the street, she could have killed someone.

I think she should do 1 year in jail for this.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Brandon Clement] #309052
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This similar siuation could and probably did happen somewhere in Oakville tonight... This kind of stuff happens all the time, and whether or not I think she should go to jail, there is no way she will and certainly not for a year.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Rob Gripper] #309058
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Originally Posted by Rob Gripper
Lock her up and throw away the key...


So tax payers can pay for her accommodations in prison?

Two words: Labour Camp smile

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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Nigel Smith] #309060
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Originally Posted by Nigel Smith
This similar siuation could and probably did happen somewhere in Oakville tonight... This kind of stuff happens all the time, and whether or not I think she should go to jail, there is no way she will and certainly not for a year.


Of course not, our system is too lenient on dumb fucks


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Brandon Clement] #309087
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I would have, never called the cops......
Next time some one saw her she would be on the back of a Milk carton, and my flower gardins would be nice and green !


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When is someone going to actually do something about this BS, this problem has been around since cars, and only seems to be getting worse. She's probably at home in her parents mansion explaining how she's the victim. Should have taken the 2g's, a BJ and then stuffed her down a drain.


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Bradley Woodward] #309155
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Kind of an erie considence that the day after I read your post, a female ran over a worker in edmonton, pinning him between her car and his service truck, he succumbed to injuries. Police suspect drug and alcohol played a factor. Stupidity


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: EK] #309161
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from speaking to some insurance brokers, they will offer you an average market value. should be somewhat higher than book value.
use ebay as a source for prices. buy it back if you can.

if you decide to part it out, I can chop it for you. i have a place, and i can do it quickly.

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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Stacey Shaw] #309191
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Originally Posted by Stacey Shaw
Kind of an erie considence that the day after I read your post, a female ran over a worker in edmonton, pinning him between her car and his service truck, he succumbed to injuries. Police suspect drug and alcohol played a factor. Stupidity


Ya I saw the aftermath of that. I live right around the corner from that accident. You would not believe how many accidents there are here. Drinking and driving also seem to be more common here then it did when I was in Ontario.

Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Kenrick Miller] #309329
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Thanks for the support everyone.

It's been a long and frustrating week of waiting and waiting for an answer on the situation.

Final got some news today. The damage to the car is an estimate of $4600, which will be paid by her insurance company of course.

Repair will take 2 weeks. Just need to figure out if they're gonna replace my rim as the lip did not look fixable in the least.

Question to you all though: Would you take any further action at all in this situation? Or just get your beloved DSM fixed and move on?

Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Allicock] #309331
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Well personally, since i wasnt part of the accident at all and theres no physical casualties (except hers and her friends), i would take the car repaired at her own expense.

I'll just hit her where it hurts - her insurance.

Really, what else would you sue for? Unless her insurance was dicking you around and/or you think the settlement wasn't fair, i see no point in suing her or her company.



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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Allicock] #309333
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Unless the rim was insured I think you will be getting a stock one back. I don't think mods are insurable under normal auto policy.

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That's how I feel also. Looks like I'll just have to buy a rim when it's all said and done.

Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Allicock] #309341
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Could you get the value of a stock rim and put that towards the cost of a matching aftermarket rim?

Just curious, I'm an insurance newb.


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Probably depending on your company, but sometimes they will cover up to $1500 in "additional" modifications, such as rims etc in your policy.

The rim itself doesn't look to have much damage from what I can see in the pics? Is the cost of a new rim in that repair estimate? If not, it should be. Also there are rim re-finishers around that could probably have it back to as good as new. I know years ago when I inquired it was around $150 a rim for a typical polished/powdercoated rim (though I'm sure prices have gone up since then).


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Kuttschrutter] #309343
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Originally Posted by Mike Kuttschrutter
Could you get the value of a stock rim and put that towards the cost of a matching aftermarket rim?

Just curious, I'm an insurance newb.

Yes, that should be no problem.


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Yeah I dont mind if the rim is fixed. Its worth like $150 anyway, not that big of a deal, but I dont think they included that in the quote though. It's more the lip that was rashed up a bit. I'm thinking they could smooth it out.

On a side note, maybe now's the time to get all my little dings and scratches fixed, lol tongue

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Originally Posted by Mike Allicock
Yeah I dont mind if the rim is fixed. Its worth like $150 anyway, not that big of a deal, but I dont think they included that in the quote though. It's more the lip that was rashed up a bit. I'm thinking they could smooth it out.

On a side note, maybe now's the time to get all my little dings and scratches fixed, lol tongue

Exactly, just look at the brightside!


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When I bent my rim the repair estimate was like 150 each if I remember correctly, included refinish I think.
Couldnt it just be polished out? Or is it bent too?


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Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Lane] #309376
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Will your insurance rates be affected by this?


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I'm not sure of the condition of the rim. I don't remember seeing it dented the day after, just the huge rash on the lip. I'll be going by the body shop tomorrow to go over the repairs.

Thankfully our insurance will not be affected at all. It was the first thing we asked the adjuster, lol. They said the case couldn't be any more in our favour, plus whatever the officers inputted in the system ridded us of any liability (I would hope so!)

Process is such a headache though.

Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Allicock] #309380
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There are wordings and "situations" in place that determine at fault scenarios and rating charts in regards to accidents...

this would be 100% NOT AT FAULT, and placed under a different type of collision section on your policy for people who damage your car that you are witnessed to seeing them while your car is sitting still.

Grant is probably more knowledgeable in those regards, since I'm very very new to the industry and haven't encountered that scenario yet. (best way for myself to learn)

If I were you, the only complaint I would make is the fact she hit it dead on that wheel, once you have "damage" there to that section of a car, it will NEVER be the same. An ex has her car hit there and it spun her around a full 360, and the car was never ever the same again.

I'm glad your content with your settlement they offered because no matter what people say its all how you feel in the end of a claim.


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I hear you Mitchell. I guess that's the part that somewhat worries me. I'll make sure I take a very extensive test drive after picking it up from the body shop in a couple weeks.

Re: STORY: Drunk drivers and my DSM :( [Re: Mike Allicock] #309392
July 29, 2009 01:26 pm UTC
July 29, 2009 01:26 pm UTC
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Adam Weinhandl Offline
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IMO that rim is easily fixable. I've seen WAY worse (like, chunks of the lip MISSING) come back from our rim shop looking brand new. Those guys can do some amazing things with metal. smile

Edit: This is is the kind of stuff i'm talking about. Just look at the before and after. Your wheel would be a snap.

Last edited by Adam Weinhandl; July 29, 2009 01:38 pm UTC.

92' Plymouth Laser RS Turbo - Tractionally Impaired.
Wheel hopped so hard, I broke my headlight.
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